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11.17.2004 :: This city smells of explosives and decaying flesh

Originally posted on 11/14/04

pro-life? could have fooled me?

I'm sorry, but I just can't pretend that it's all sweetness and light around here.

How is a life valued? Is one human life more valuable than another human life because of race or creed?

For an administration that cares so damn much about unborn lives, they certainly don't seem to care too much about the lives that they are taking away. (And when that voice in your head starts justifying why we are killing all of these people, remember to ask yourself why you think their lives are worth less than yours and then ask yourself why you think that you are in a position to make that kind of a judgement.)

Is this what we've become?

Updated on 11/17/04 :: I posted this the other day, then took it down because I don't always have the fortitude to withstand the scrutiny of others. But, this post has been nagging me because the whole situation is terribly upsetting.

Since the 14th, I watched the first part of Bill Moyer's Now. He interviewed Sister Joan Chittister, a Benedictine Nun, who was speaking my thoughts aloud on national TV. Her calm outrage hit home with me. Particularly a rhetorical question regarding Iraqi casualties - that some of the civilians dying in Iraq are pregnant women. She called it "military abortion" - and raised the question of how "we" could condone the deaths of these Iraqis, yet oppose abortion at home. (note: apparently there is another word for what the sister called a "military abortion". It's called "fetal homicide" - at least it is when the woman is from California)

Perhaps Ze'ev Schiff, an Israeli journalist, has answered this question.

"The strong do not generally torment themselves with moral quandaries during wartime, apparently because they do not feel that they have to gain the legitimization of the international public opinion."

11/18/04 News on Fallujah from The International Red Cross/Red Crescent

11/22/04 - Update From the Seattle Times and published online at commondreams: Another Round of Misery for the Children of Iraq

Posted by Mary on 11.17.2004 AT 10:50 AM

Comments

Thank you for posting. And be proud for having written these words!

Posted by: Marta on 11.18.2004 AT 05:01 AM

Your words have left me speechless and embarrassed to be an American. Thank you for sharing difficult words. Ones that we ALL have to hear. And bear.

Posted by: sandy on 11.18.2004 AT 06:41 AM

Did you see the reports a couple days ago of a military troop forcing civilians back INTO Fallujah? I haven't had the time to research the story.

You know how I feel.

Max's class collected pencils and erasers to send to Iraqi children in an effort to help with the rebuilding of Iraq.

We decimate their country, then we send them pencils. What message does this send to my son's generation? Both in Iraq and here at home?

Posted by: Kerstin on 11.18.2004 AT 07:04 AM

I've been reading your blog for a while as I enjoy your knitting, the wonderful pictures of your dogs and just in general, a well done and interesting blog. Today's blog entry is one of the best you've ever done. I'm glad you decided to repost it. It's an eloquent way of saying what I feel. Thank you.

Posted by: Cindy on 11.18.2004 AT 07:15 AM

As a nation, we are in deep denial about the real cost of war. We think it is too awful to see what war really is and can't even countenance a movie depicting the realities of war. It's too upsetting; it scares the children; it's bad for morale. We need to sheild ourselves from the reality of what is happening or we may not have the will to continue with it. That would be a shame. War is a videogame; the 'bad guys' are not real people and certainly aren't children. If this is a thing that we feel needs to be done, then we ought to have to guts to face up to what that really entails. Maybe our children should at least have some limited access to what is going on. Then they won't be so confused someday about why 'those people over there' seem to hate us so much.

Posted by: michelle on 11.18.2004 AT 07:34 AM

Thanks for being brave. People need to be made to see what we have become as a nation, where a zygote in California is more important to us than actual adult and child humans, here and elsewhere. Reminds me of an ancient Malvina Reynolds song: "... it can't be murdered till it's born."

Posted by: CarolineF on 11.18.2004 AT 08:08 AM

Thanks for posting the link to Sr. Joan's essay. As a Catholic, I am always struck that the voice of reason in the Church most often comes from the women.

Posted by: Annie on 11.18.2004 AT 09:55 AM

I hate this war, but mostly I worry about the whole world. I worry about nature, and how cruel people can be to each other, and what materalistic value's have done to our world. But its human nature it seems. It's sad.

Posted by: pixie on 11.18.2004 AT 10:08 AM

We need to know and share the truth. Our arogance can be astounding.

Posted by: margene on 11.18.2004 AT 11:08 AM

Bravo Mary. Please do not be afraid...we're all here to support you!

-Wendy

Posted by: Wendy on 11.18.2004 AT 11:44 AM

I remember watching footage of the war in Vietnam every evening when I was a child. I had a very real, if somewhat sanitized, idea of the costs of war to humanity.

These days, my children and students have few visuals of the war. They do not comprehend the human costs at all. I am gravely concerned about this. Trust the BBC to bring it out.

Thank you for being brave and true to your convictions to go ahead and let this post.

Posted by: Laurie on 11.18.2004 AT 11:52 AM

Thank you for posting. That was a thought I had not even considered and appreciate your courage.

Jenn

Posted by: Jenn on 11.18.2004 AT 12:22 PM

Thank you for posting. Thank you for caring. All of my husband's family lives in ramadi in Iraq and we lived there during the last war, so I know a little bit of what it is like to live day to day through pretty awful circumstances, but I can't even imagine what people are going through now (including our troops- I don't think many of the young people that went over will ever be the same as they were before having to go through the war)

Posted by: Azhar on 11.18.2004 AT 01:53 PM

This was a connection I thought of for the first time a few weeks ago, and one I've been puzzling over. To me, the contradiction is very telling. A common way of refuting the argument you present seems to be that babies have no choice in whether they will be aborted, and soldiers in war have a choice whether they will fight and what they will fight for. Personally, I think this is a weak justification. It ignores civilian casaualities, the fact that the invaded country does not usually want to be invaded, and differs personally with me in the issue of whether or not a fetus is a person yet at all, even.

I am loving the thoughtful political opinions that are springing up around the knitting ring. Very eloquent.

Posted by: Sandy J on 11.18.2004 AT 02:15 PM

i also saw that interview with sister chittister, and it has stayed with me since. thanks for this post.

Posted by: mrspilkington on 11.18.2004 AT 04:01 PM

I wish I could remember the source of the quote.....

"The first casaulty of war is TRUTH."

I think about it all the time.

Posted by: Melissa on 11.18.2004 AT 06:20 PM

The news story reports on the number of rebels killed and captured, and the number of US soldiers and Iraqi killed and injured...where are the reports of the number of civilians killed and injured?

Posted by: Jean on 11.18.2004 AT 06:57 PM